Re: NSA - Spook Linux

From: "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw@wittsend.com>
Subject: Re: NSA - Spook Linux
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:51:17 -0500

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 11:32:26AM +0100, Peter Busser wrote:
> Hi!

> > Wll there was a article on securityfocus recently about how there was a
> > fairly obvious buffer overflow in the libsecurity library NSA added, I
> > tink it was a remote explot, cant remember though. Personally I wpuldnt
> > trust anything that came out of NSA considering the good possibility they
> > were behind the strangely named NSA encrytion key found in windowsnt

> Well, first of all, no non-trivial program is perfect. The existence of one
> buffer overflows is not proof by itself that this NSA stuff is less secure
> than other programs. It seems to be a research project, so don't expect
> mission critical level security.

> Second if all source code is available, how could the NSA hide such tricks like
> the MS-Windows/NT encryption key in the system? It might be possible, but it is
> no doubt very hard to hide.

	Gee...  Doesn't ANYONE bother to read the final analysis of
these things anymore.  I know the conspiracy theories are much more fun,
but come on...

	The "MS-Windows/NT encryption key" only allowed them (the NSA)
to use their own key for their own software without submitting anything
to Microsoft.  It wasn't a backdoor and it didn't compromise and non-NSA
systems.

	The one thing the NSA key did was totally screw over the export
controls (and may have contributed to the demise of them last year) by
making it possible to install foreign crypto into Windows without
hosing crypto signed by MS.  You just had to "patch" the NSA key to be
the key of your choice and then both your key and the MS key would work
allowing signatures from either source.  As long as there was only one
key, they could control who could provide crypto to be installed in
Windows.  With two keys, they lost that control.  :-)

> All in all I think it's an interesting project. Provided all source code
> are publicly available, I don't think there is any reason to be overly
> paranoid about it.

	I think it's wonderful.  We can examine their patches and adopt
what ever we want into our software.  They've already derived benefit
from OpenSourcing it since flaws were quickly discovered and fixed that
might have gone into production.

> Groetjes,
> Peter Busser
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